After I had a Major Attempt, (apparently) I was Interrogated by the Umatilla Army Chemical Depot Security Supervisors, who tried to make all questions answered to incriminate that I caused the Attacker to Run me over three times with a Four Door Dodge Ram Work Truck, and bash open my Head-crushing my skull. All questions are to get desired results no matter which side is doing the questioning, VERY rarely are the question Fact Finding!

Robin,

Thank you for your reply. First, I cannot imagine what the experience you described must have been like, to endure such pain and then on top of it to made to feel like you were the antagonist after wards.

It’s situations like yours that the public needs to know about, and I do not deny that they still occur, thus why this issue is to important to me.

It has disgusted me many times in the past to see the way that some people interrogate. Everytime I interrogated someone, they always thanked me over and over for ”actually listening” to them and for giving them a ”chance to tell their story”. When I first heard these comments from them I was outraged at the wonder of how many people must not listen to those that they are questioning. If you don’t give the person who you are questioning the majority of the session to speak then you are guiding the conversation, and it likely will end up as what you described.

There were also many times that some evidence led me to believe one thing and after speaking to the person in question, I was convinced otherwise. Whenever I found out that I was wrong, I let the person I was questioning know that I had been wrong. I feel this is very important.

An interrogator should never walk into a room already assuming that someone is quilty. If someone is being interrogated it is usually because we do not know if the person is guilty of something. Interrogations are not to be used to prove someone guilty, but to complete the picture of events and details. Incriminating questions, such as those you were asked, disgust me and why I want to promote this book, because as of now I have only seen my unit conduct interrogations in the way that I have described and I want to erradicate poor practice of interrogation.

The questions asked should be simple, direct, and thus lead to fact finding after an entire conversation. They should not be designed to make someone feel poorly or guilty. This is why I would just ask someone to tell me there story. If they are being truthful, you can tell. If they are not, you can tell. You cannot force someone to lie about what they do not want to, and it is simply wrong, which makes the person interrogating the bigger criminal.

Again, I am sorry for what happened to you and greatly appreciate you speaking about it. I hope that people in this practice will take seriously the consequences of their actions and erase this jaded concept of what interrogation truly is and should be. Best wishes.

Dianna

How much interaction do you have with the CIA in the course of your mission - that is, have the beatings, stress positions, forced nudity, waterboarding, sensory deprivation, sending people to K2 for outsourced/extremely life threatening stuff, etc...you get the point - you’re saying that’s not still going on?

Jake, thanks for your questions. I am absolutely not saying that still isn’t going on. I don’t doubt that it still occurs, although I have never seen it myself.

I will tell you what I know. I worked as an interrogator for the US Army. We saw cases of ours taken from us by the CIA. Sometimes they would interrogate them in our facility, which required us to be present-in those instances no abuse or methods you spoke of was seen. I also never saw a case that was returned to us with signs of abuse. Our command placed a lot of emphasis on reporting abuse cases, a lot does not even describe the insistence that they placed on it.

There were times when the questioning that they used did not follow the methods we followed and they were asked to terminate the interrogation because we controlled the facility.

When cases of ours were taken by the agency to another facility, which I have not seen, and the detainee was returned to us, many of my co-workers claimed that their detainee would no longer speak to them because the agents had completely ruined rapport.

Some of the reasons the detainees told us that they would not speak to us anymore was because agents had told them they would not get the things we promised them, i.e. early release, reduced sentence. In my opinion, from the sounds of this, it may have meant the agents used an aggressive line of questioning that was not tactful, i.e. ”if you don’t talk to us, you’re not going to get released early. We’re have more power than the army, don’t trust them.” That is not a quote from anyone, only what I assume was similar to what was said, having listened to what detainees said after they were returned from agency custody.

In fairness, I will say that it is more benificial to remain with the same interrogator. For example, a new interrogator will not know everything the person in question has already said to someone else, something that may have actually helped the case of the person in question.

It is very important for there to be trust between an interrogator and the person who is being questioned. It is more like two people making a negotiation. If I committed a crime, I likely would not want to reveal everything I had done, because I would know which elements of my action would be most incriminating to me. A person in question usually has it in their mind what they are willing to talk about.

Please keep in mind, that my purpose for the book I have written is to erradicate the type of methods you wrote about. I have seen interrogations done and conducted them without physical or emotional harm to persons in question. Many times the person that was questioned felt relief after they had divulged information.

People do things for a reason. If a person steals food, it is likely because he/she was hungry; we do things because circumstances drive us to them and we see the action as the best solution at the time. The people that we call insurgents in the Middle East do the things that they do because they believe strongly in something.

There is a saying, ”you take two steps forward and one step back.” It is important to concentrate on what the steps backwards are so that we can learn from them. Unfortunately, it is often that we take two steps forward and four back.

Because of Abu Ghraib, the unit that I was in was formed, and we abided by Geneva Conventions, just as the people before us should have. Where the oversight was, I don’t know, and it angers me that we could do so well, why others did not. Because of the issue of waterboarding and other methods you spoke of, I only hope for the future that the media’s and public’s outcries and exploitation of it that action will be taken. I do my part in publishing one small memoir that, likely, the people who need to read it most, will not.

To you, I thank you for being offended by those methods, as sadly there are people who are not. Although someone may be considered an enemy, he is still a human being.

When I walked into an interrogation booth in Iraq, I always told myself this, ”I’m just going in here to meet this man and find out who he is. I’m in his country, I’m a guest in his home. No matter what he did, I will try to find a way to help him and to help the people of Iraq.”

Dianna

I tried to click on the friends authorization but the whole page went blank...SOOOOO I must have done something wrong. OK...well off to bed I go I have an Appointment with the VA for a check up. See somehow if I messed up something and chid me about it and then I can perhaps correct my error if so. Night. When does your book come out?

This is what I have sent to Investigators for CBS...Helen Tompkins number is new-”Private Practice”— 503-534-5020� No one asked the Commander— David Holladay, why he gave the Paramedic’s Orders to leave me on the ground and wait for an Ambulance 8 minutes away. The Paramedic’s informed the Commander to not transport me would Jeopardize my care-and that I had less that one minute to be completely Dead. He told them NOT TO TRANSPORT-WAIT FOR HERMISTON AMBULANCE! They checked with their Command, (Washington Group-Contracting) who released their Paramedics to do as they saw necessary. They loaded me and in the Ambulance the Paramedic on my Right side popped my Lung and SAVED MY lIFE!!!!!!!!!!! The Depot Commander–(David Holladay) placed admonishments in the Paramedics records, and each have been warned NOT to speak to me at all, (Which is against the Law!) Not once has this been question-nor admitted.� 541-922-3309 Home I was a very healthy 41 yr. woman, who weighed 96 lbs, and stood 63”. I am a 45 yr. woman who is now- not so Healthyand has permanent Nerve Damage.� Pain in my Stomach-possible Ulcer. I walk due t the fact the truck Parked so high up on my chest, and Eventually my Lacerated Liver repaired it self. I see out of my eye because the blow to my head was just fraction from hitting the eye ball. I have Titanium pins in my Skull, and Mandibular Region for reconstruction. Within hours they did two life saving procedures at Portland’s Emmanuel Hospital. I was in the Trauma Unit there for seven days. My head was bashed in-which matched the Butt of my 9mm-and my forehead/eyelid was torn open-.� was moved 33 yards, from where the Incident occurred-on F St.. I have great detailed proof of Evidence that NO ONE wants to look at! �Ariel Miller/FBI told me that everything was Closed-hours after the Incident. It became important not to go deep into Discovery-I WAS NEVER TOLD WHY-every one knew that it was blatant ATTEMPTED MURDER!–Let alone Assault! Ariel Miller, and I looked at my Uniform together- when I noticed a mark of something on the back-Right side/Scapula Area-he hummed and hawed, but finally when I pushed he stated that it looked like a ”Foot Print!” Then he stated, ”that was dismissed by ”us” (immediately)-due to the fact ”we” believed it was the Paramedics foot print. I went to the Nurses, Quinton Gram, and to the records to find that my Uniform was never taken from my body - until I was in the Emergency Room. Next, Ariel stated that well, Holloman was known to have worn Cow Boy Boots-so we never questioned him. I told him that Myself and a Partner I had weeks before would verify that Holloman had bought waffled/standard Uniformed type soled boots. Holloman wore these boots to work stating that he bought them to go Hunting in-and needed to get them broke in. The apex of my Scapula was broken off right where the Foot Print is! Two Yrs. later Ariel Miller told me that that mark had been dismissed by the FBI lab due to Degrading Trace-I found that strange when Ariel Miller/FBI, had had no problem before noting the Origin! Omission?!!!!!!! I told the State Police and the Depot, as well as the FB, I that I and Holloman were at alllllllllalllllllll times on the ”Allotted-NON Restricted” Road-F St. I was found on a side Dirt Road-I had no idea about for Four Yrs. No one explained to me that my body had been relocated-over 33Yrds. But, the FBI, Depot,as well the State Police all were aware! The Government-Pentagon became apprised of these points but it never was enough to encourage Investigation. When asked if ANYONE Illuminated my Weapon-NO-even though the Wound matched the Butt of my 9MM! I was told that not one person looked at Holloman’s ”War Bag” nor at his ”Shoes, Nor at my ”Weapon” while it sat in Cpt. Haines bottom Desk Drawer for over six months! Holloman Failed Miserably- his Lie Detection Test! Holloman has given Five separate accounts-of his statement, and not one fit any likely scenario. The FBI’s re-enactment I have show Medically Impossible! I have actually taken all of the Physical Evidence, and Medical Accounts and what Holloman did was—”Sick, and yet Simple!” When we were finnaly parked on F St-I got out. Holloman was not keeping an eye/acfcount for my where abouts, so this brought me to the front of the Work Truck-to get his attention. I bent down and picked up a few pebbles, (Which were in my left pocket), I waved my hand over the hood, towards the Windshield, to get his attention. He looked up over his glasses and rolling his eyes looked back down at his book. I knew then he was aware of my location. I bent down on my Left knee, and looked ahead.� I suddenly heard a loud noise, and saw movement-I thought three things, jump up and yell, go to the side.� But I slapped the bumper and turned and launched forward as though diving into a pool. I looked over my Left shoulder and saw the Differential coming towards me-as I rested my body on my forearms. I thought, G_D, I’ve been through allot but nothing like this, help me now-I wanted to die with Dignity! Suddenly I knew to lay my arms out flat! I placed them still bent at my head but flattened to the ground. I remember next-standing I was looking out thinking, ”well that (what ever that was-I wasn’t sure) wasn’t too bad. I did a mental check, (not moving) my partial, seemed to be intact. My glasses seemed to be a bit skewed; but, I thought no big deal, I can fix that. I was alright, (still had no idea what had happened)! I then ”Knew,” questions were being asked- ”Could you imagine being in a Car Wreck, ”That would be awful” I thought!” The next question I understood, ”Could you imagine being ran over,” ”Oh my G_D;” ”that would be Horrible!” The next understanding was....”well it happened; and it was you!” ”NO!” ”NO!”� ”NO!” Suddenly, I was being turned- the truck had been behind me a bit, and on my left side. I was moving without walking-I was being moved! I was being moved clock wise, to my right, towards to face the passenger back side of the truck. I could tell someone was laying on the ground and they were under the wheel. The whole time I was being moved towards it I protested-”NO! ”NO!” ”NO!” When I was brought nearer I was suddenly inside the body, but then back out, and protesting still-I came too! I came too and couldn’t breath, my mouth was full of gravel. I thought that was the problem and tried to spit-No air volume! I could only slobber-and rack with my tongue. Finally; I realized I was looking up at the bottom of the wheel basin-a tire was on my chest. I wanted to scream, but knew that Holloman was aware he was on me! I could since—- scream-no one can hear you! I am a Medic-so I responded with my training-Military Corpsman/Medical and EMT !!!! ”Be still!” ”Don’t move” I waited to die!� Ok; I’m going to die!!!!,...now!;...now!;....now!;(?) Why am I not dead????? I wasn’t breathing(?????????)! �But; I had to also do something! I pounded on the tires, but each move I made exhausted my reserve of Air-which I gathered! I then raised my arms that had been bent at shoulder level, to find rocks to throw, but the truck started to move off of me and I went back out! Now, the first pass-I was Prone-head faced East! The next time I came too, I was supine, and my head was towards the south! When I was found, my head was in the weeds, and my body in the dirt, my head was towards the west/south. Three times I was in different positions-not of my own accord! (An MRI showed the first pass knocked me out due to an old injury-lesion being recently broken apart.) My shoulders sustained torn rotator Cuff Injuries.� I had a Myo-Cardio Infarction-blood test proved! Later, Holloman went to the truck and retrieved a book, I later learned was a ”Bible.” He then tucked it under his arm, and put his hands together and prayed...”Father help this young Woman-who is in need of you Grace!” I took a moment to gather some more air-but I did and interrupted his little chat! I could see the Red and White Tower at my feet. I much later heard rushing through brush and wondered why people were coming through weeds-we were not in the weeds?????? Tell me to my face- please why I do not matter!� Four weeks after I came Home from the Hospital-Dan and Sally McBride told me to get out of my own house! I called the Depot crying and couldn’t think-I was scared. I lived in tents for months on my own land-paying for them to live in my house! They are gone now, but nothing happened to them, and the Assistant Attorney General stated in Court....SOOOOOO! �� I have no idea of where to begin-as to catch your attention-nothing concerning my case so far has! On Feb. 11th, 05-Micheal Holloman went over me 3x, w/a Four Dodge Ram Work/Security Vehicle. – Robin Sauls

Do you truly believe an extremist, who has no compunction about chopping off someone’s head, and yours,if they had a chance, or crashing a plane into a building killing thousands, or raping a woman to force her to become a suicide bomber, is a human being?

Implicit in your question is a statement that you would have no problem torturing someone. In order to answer no to that question, I would categorize you with that extremist and say you both were not human beings. However, yes, that’s a human being. I care not so much for the rapists as for our military and our image before the world. Also, I see the abuse of our extreme methods by our leadership. If you torture someone, you control what they say. Then, it’s not so much them talking as it is you. When you can turn around and say ”See, I told you so, this is what the enemy thinks”, do you think I trust that? No, it’s just another dishonest method at getting propaganda out and putting words into the mouths of people. If you wanted to invent a terrorist group, how would you do it? You’d put a bounty out in a poor country like Pakistan for a vague set of people, then you’d torture them into saying what you wanted to say. Then, you’d clean them up and put the words you made them say out to the media. Who’s the monster now?